Mr. Edwin Haynes is an internationally respected and celebrated businessman and a successful business coach from Houston, TX. He has been in Network Marketing for twenty years, although interestingly, he started in the music industry. Today Mr. Edwin Haynes is one of the faces of the powerful ibüümerang project. He is also addicted to personal development and residual income. In this in-depth interview he tells us about his life philosophy, friendship with Mr. Holton Buggs, ibüümerang and other often surprising things. Part two.
Mr. Haynes, why have you decided to become a Global Master Ambassador distributor at ibuumerang. Why did you make that choice?
It was an honor to have that invitation extended to me. That means that a friend of mine, a business partner of mine, my mentor, trusted me enough to be put in this position. I had grown and I’ve seen him grow too. I believe I’ve been fortunate.
I love basketball. I’m an avid watcher of basketball. I can’t quote all the stats, but I can tell you one thing. Most people around the world know who Michael Jordan is. Michael Jordan is a famous basketball player. I’m pretty sure the players such as Kobe Bryant or LeBron James that had a chance to play with him in his time were honored to have been able to play with him, when he played. So that’s what I feel about working with my coach and best friend.
They say that Holton Buggs is the Michael Jordan of network marketing.
Let me rephrase that, he is the Holton Buggs of the network marketing industry.
But if Holton Buggs is the Michael Jordan of network marketing, can we say that you are Hakeem Olajuwon?
I will take that one!
Mr. Haynes, I know a guy, a regular guy. Yesterday he won 10 million dollars in a lottery. How much of this he should invest in ibuumerang in your opinion and why?
The maximum that a person can get started in our business with, is one thousand dollars. That’s all. He would need to have some certain skills. but in terms of money, the maximum is $1000. We made it a low barrier to entry but the potential for profit is very high. If you apply the system that we put together and follow the coaching that’s in place, you can have success. The same people that spent $1000 to get started, today are worth well over 10 million dollars. The influence and the people that they know is their capital, not their money.
Another question about ibuumerang. What’s the secret, that you are breaking records in recent months while the whole world is locked down?
We’re so used to adversity in our career. A lot of people see ibuumerang as a new company, which is only 14 months old. We’re still a baby. But the name and the company is what’s new. The talent behind it is very skilled and experienced. That makes a difference. We have been through turbulent times before. It seemed like in most of my endeavors, in the beginning there was always something tough going on. Our last venture that we did, we started off right in the midst of the recession back in 2008. There were two things happening on the very first day that we launched. The recession was happening and that was for a period of time.
But on the day we launched, we were in Houston, Texas and there was a major hurricane coming our way. People were calling us and saying, you all need to leave Houston. You need to leave Houston! We said no! We are building our dreams and goals right now. We’re used to going through adversity.
We pay attention to the trends, to the markets. We’re not just in network marketing, we are business people that happen to use the network marketing platform to do business. That’s the difference, that’s the secret sauce.
Everyone else is looking at just recruiting and doing an event. We’re looking at how things are working from a business standpoint first. And that’s how we’ve been able to guide ourselves through these adverse times.
Let me give you an example. We knew people would be locked down. The first thing we said is, let’s get them off the TV and put them in a positive environment. We need to keep them focused. We put different programs together that our teams could plug into every single day. As we say, we knew how to take lemons and turn them into lemonade. We are already months and maybe years ahead of others because we are paying attention to the way trends go in business and in life.
Let’s change the subject. I must say Mr. Haynes, I am personally an introvert, but due to my profession as a journalist from time to time I need to speak in public. You’re a successful businessman but also a motivational speaker, so my question is, do you like it? And do you like to be on stage and what’s the feeling for you?
I am an introvert myself. When in church I wouldn’t even get in front and bow my head let alone say a word. I was too embarrassed or afraid to do that. I still do today. I get a little jittery and nervous before I speak. One of the biggest things that helped me is, I got mentally free from people. I would never do anything to embarrass myself, my friends, my family and colleagues. But I don’t let other people’s opinions of me, form the way that I feel and think now. I used to do that.
As an introvert you can’t let what other people think about us get into you. Most of the time they’re not even thinking that. We’re the ones thinking of it. I had to release myself from that. When I did that, it was like the weight of the world went off of my shoulders. When I go on the stage I say, “let the words positively impact the people”, so people can get the message. Don’t pay attention to the messenger, just receive the message.
As an introvert, I salute you Mr. Haynes. You are also a writer and you wrote a book, right? So, you have permission to talk about it now.
And you have permission to succeed! That book came from my journal notes. I took things that I learned and applied. That book came from CD stories that we did back in the day. Holton Buggs had something called “Eat the crust first”. I had my CD that was called “Permission to Succeed”. And a lot of people kept asking about my book. They were asking, give me the secrets to success. So, I began to journal while I was traveling around the world. I said let me do my first book writing on something that was practical like saving money, mind process. All the things that I did and I did not do. I didn’t want that book to come out until I had success financially and personally. Once I did that, I released my book. I believe I’ve indirectly and directly impacted a lot of people in a positive way.
Are you planning on writing another one?
Yes, but it’s taking years to do it.
Will it be about basketball?
I may have some basketball references in there. It’s been outlined but quite honestly, I haven’t felt it yet to complete it and I don’t want to put anything out that I don’t feel completely confident in.
I keep my fingers crossed for you and I can’t wait for your next book. Next question. Which business failure do you cherish the most? In other words what did you learn from it that it has become the most important business failure?
One thing that I’ve learned is how to fail. I learned to fail and get back up again. I just never stopped. I was always saying never let anybody stop you from trying multiple times to succeed in life. It may not work, but keep moving on. The failures came out to be positive for me. My goal in life is to not make the same mistake twice. From every experience, take the good things and then move on.
Another question. Top five adjectives used to describe Mr. Holton Buggs?
Five words!? Incredible, amazing, innovative, positive, hard working, visionary.
That’s not embellishing whatsoever. We’re the best of friends, we’re family, we’re brothers. We fight like anyone else, we are both strong-willed people, but we are respectful of one another. It is actually an honor to be in this position and experience what I have over the years working with Holton Buggs.
What kind of people do you like the most and is Mr. Holton Buggs one of them?
I had to learn to work with all types of people because we’re in the people business. And so, you know I don’t have a preference. Holton Buggs is an incredible person to work with and he is a lot of fun. We are the silliest people that you ever want to meet on our own time, but we also know how to switch and do business when we have to and keep that part separate.
In life and in business it’s not all about who you get along with. It’s also about learning how to work with people. Good leaders know how to adjust themselves and make things work. It’s different things about different people and nobody’s perfect. You have to be flexible.
I’ve been trying during this interview to show you as a remarkable entrepreneur but also as a person, as a human being. To show something about your private life and your views on life. So, the last question. Mr. Haynes, what’s your definition of happiness?
True happiness is he who works and plays and doesn’t know the difference. I am working and I am playing and I’m having the time of my life right now. I have financial freedom. My family is in a secure position. We have issues like everyone else or challenges, but I don’t let that stop me. My goal is to keep a good clean environment. I don’t let the obstacles and the issues of the world dictate my future.
Thank you, that was the last question. Thank you for your insights and your answers. It’s been a pleasure. I hope we’ll get another chance to talk in the future.
Absolutely, I want to tell you thanks for the great work that you’re doing in business but also in this industry. We need great positive people, because this industry can help a lot of people around the world. We’ve always been the stepchild of business but this could really save a lot of lives. I look at it from all walks of life and I’ve been working with a group of doctors recently that are in business with us now. They had no choice because some of their work was not essential: pediatrics, dentistry, things of that nature. They realized we are only as good as our last patient but now they have to seriously consider doing something because their degree is not getting the job done.